Knicks 2022 NBA Draft notes: 'Frustration in the room' when Jaden Ivey trade didn't come to fruition

Plus, two ways of looking at Thursday's trades

6/24/2022, 10:39 PM

It always sounds silly to me when people make claims like, ‘Knicks fans are angry’ or ‘Knicks fans are thrilled’ with anything that happens with the team.

There are hundreds of thousands of people who are passionate Knicks fans. To suggest that all of them share the same opinion on any topic is reductive, I think.

So I think anyone suggesting that Knicks fans are furious, elated or anywhere in between today is fooling themselves.

I’m sure various Knicks fans have a wide range of opinions on what the club did in the first round of the 2022 NBA Draft.

Below, I’m going to take a look at reasons to be optimistic and pessimistic about the club’s decisions on Thursday.

SUNNY OUTLOOK

The optimistic view of Thursday’s events goes something like this: after completing three trades on draft night, the Knicks have three future first-round picks (protected to various degrees) and 11 firsts and 11 second-round picks over the next seven years.

They were able to shed Kemba Walker’s salary to create some cap space. They should be able to shed enough salary to create the cap space required to make a competitive offer to Dallas unrestricted free agent Jalen Brunson or other top free agents (restricted or unrestricted) on June 30.

If they sign Brunson, he should give them stability at a position they’ve struggled to fill for so long: lead guard.

Brunson doesn’t necessarily need to shoot to impact winning (as an aside: Brunson is a winner. Look at his Villanova teams and the Mavs’ record when he’s on the court.)

So RJ Barrett, Obi Toppin, Julius Randle, Cam Reddish, Immanuel Quickley and anyone else who may be on the roster next season should benefit from his presence.

Even after signing Brunson, the Knicks will have a surplus of draft picks to sweeten trade offers for another player. They will also have young players they can offer in a trade.

So even if the Knicks don’t have a ton of cap space after signing Brunson, re-signing Mitchell Robinson and signing Barrett to a second contract, the club still should have enough assets to trade for an impactful player.

The optimist would see the Brunson signing as the first step toward New York building a consistent contender in the Eastern Conference.

A CYNICAL VIEW

A fan upset over Thursday’s moves might say that Leon Rose and the Knicks mismanaged their assets. They might confuse Rose for Sean Landeta because he keeps punting on making a major move. They might look at Brunson, notice that he is represented by CAA, Rose’s former agency.

They might look at the protections on the picks acquired (more on that below) and question their value to the Knicks.

They might wonder about the direction of the team after the Knicks had to use draft assets in order to shed Wallker’s deal. That contract was signed less than 12 months ago.

They may wonder what it would cost to shed more salary to go after a player like Brunson.

And they may wonder about the overall direction of the franchise. The club gave young players significant minutes midway through last year after some veterans were injured; the Knicks continued to play those young players throughout the rest season. But New York frequently played veterans over younger players in the early portion of the 2021-22 season amid a slow start.

Will they give more minutes to younger players at the start of the 2022-23 season? Will Toppin receive more playing time or will Julius Randle continue to play ahead of him?

Is Tom Thibodeau the right coach for a youth movement? (Here, some top members of the organization have a positive view of Thibodeau’s ability to develop players, specifically some of the young players on the Knick roster like Barrett. Thibodeau also says correctly that player development isn’t limited to young players. He has success stories of helping veterans expand their game in New York (Taj Gibson’s three-point shooting is an example).

They might also wonder if Rose’s inexperience is hurting the Knicks. The contracts signed last season are being shopped in order to use cap space to sign a free agent this summer; at the time those contracts were signed, the idea that they gave the Knicks’ flexibility was espoused. But the contracts are proving to be tougher to move than the Knicks originally thought (As it currently stands, the Knicks would need to find a way to shed Alec Burks’ $10 million contract or Nerlens Noel’s salary ($9.2 base) and waive Gibson to get enough cap space to make a strong offer to Brunson).

They might assume that the Brunson signing is an overpay that will hurt New York down the line and that it’s the first step in another financial mess.

So who is right? The pessimist or the optimist?

The answer to that depends on what happens over the next few weeks and if the 2022-23 Knicks can win games and compete for a playoff spot.

Here are a few other notes:

PICK PROTECTION

The Knicks acquired two protected 2023 first-round picks and one 2025 first-round pick on draft night.

Here are the protections on the picks:

2023 Wizards pick: this is protected from 1-14 in 2023, 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if the Wizards don’t convey the pick by 2026, Washington will send the Knicks a second-round pick in 2026 and 2027.

The Knicks will be rooting for the Wizards to make the playoffs in 2022-23. If Washington makes the playoffs, New York will get the pick. It also has Dallas’ first-round pick in 2023 (protected from 1-10).

2023 Pistons pick: this is protected from 1-18 in 2023, 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027; if the pick doesn’t convey by 2027, the Pistons will send the Knicks their 2027 second-round pick.

The Pistons have plenty of young talent. But they’ll need to make a major leap in 2023 for the pick to convey to New York. Based on the talent on Detroit’s roster, it’s fair to assume that this pick conveys by 2026 at the very latest.

2025 Bucks pick: this pick is protected from 1-4 in 2025; based on where the Bucks are, this seems like it will convey to the Knicks. If the Bucks crater and this pick ends up in the top four, it goes to New Orleans as part of the Bucks’ trade for Jrue Holiday. The Knicks would not receive a pick from Milwaukee in this scenario.

Just a guess: the Knicks’ trajectory at the moment leads me to assume that they are more likely to trade these picks than use them.

IVEY PURSUIT

As noted on Thursday, the Knicks were talking to the Pistons about a potential trade for Jalen Ivey even after Detroit selected the guard.

I don’t have specifics on what New York offered during the call. But there was optimism among some in the draft room that the deal could get done. And there was also some frustration in the room when it didn’t come to fruition.

Detroit ending up with Ivey has a bit of a silver lining if you want to see Brunson in a Knick uniform; With Ivey on the roster, it seems unlikely that Detroit will pursue Brunson via free agency. Prior to the NBA Lottery, some members of the Pacers were in favor of pursuing Brunson.

SIGN OF A YOUTH PIVOT

In his statement to fans on Friday, Rose mentioned the Knicks ‘feeding off of the momentum from the end of last season and prioritizing our player development program.’

It’s unclear which portion of the end of the season Rose is referring to. But New York went 7-3 to finish the season. Young players like Toppin played significant minutes during that stretch. Randle was sidelined for seven of those final 10 games.

Rose and the Knicks didn’t make a member of the organization available to reporters after the draft. Most organizations had an executive or coach speak to the press after the draft.

Rose last conducted an interview at the end of the regular season with MSG Network and Hall of Famer Mike Breen. He hasn’t conducted an interview with reporters unaffiliated with the team since prior to the 2021-22 season. Some fans care about this, others don’t. Rose speaking every once in a while is good for the people in my business. I’d appreciate it. But it probably wouldn’t be a topic of conversation if the Knicks, under Rose, had a strong season in 2021-22.

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